Television: Almost A La Carte, a retraction

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As I said on KWC, I think Apple TV would be pretty viable if they let you rent TV (even with the auto-delete after 24 hours crap) at heavily discounted rates for entire seasons. I don't know what the price point should be, but $30-40 for a show I'm only going to watch once isn't right.

Why they don't already have reals with MLB and NFL for season passes of individual teams is stupid, but it's probably because teams have broadcast monopolies and think they can do a better job on their own.
You do know that you can get an HD Tivo box right? Now you may not want to spend the money for a new box, but they can be had fairly cheaply if you look around a bit.

For example on Tivo's website you can get a refurbished one fairly cheaply: https://www3.tivo.com/store/webspecials.do

I've found them for a bit cheaper a few other places. Whenever I do decide to upgrade my Tivo/and or my TV to an HD set, I'll probably be picking up one of these (and moving the old box into the bedroom, so we can share programs and such betweent he two TV's). You can also get boxes with bigger hard drives than that, and can even get another hard drive to expand the storage using a SATA interface. (And using cable-card you dont' have to worry about the annoying thing of hooking up a cable box to the Tivo and having the Tivo try to change channels on the cable box, so you could get rid of one box).

And by buying service in a block like a year (or even lifetime subscriptions which are back) you can save a bit of money in the long run.

Of course if you don't want to spend the money for a new box, then it's all a moot point.


Sorry, reading that it sounds like I'm trying to say if you don't buy a new HD Tivo box that you're cheap or something. I'm not saying that at all, $150-180 is a decent chunk of change, so it's entirely reasonable to not want to buy a new box when you could just use a cable company DVR (as maddening as those often are), but if you like Tivo, and the only reason you aren't using your current box is the lack of HD, it is an option.
My history with Tivo isn't the smoothest around, so I'm not TOO broken up about killing my relationship with them. But basically, my feeling is that DVRs are a part of a temporary evolution from broadcast cable to downloaded programming. It's kind of a hack, if you think about it. It gives the impression that you have a library of shows when really it's just a glorified VCR. The next big step is something like inDemand, that doesn't rely on you recording something.

Anyway, we can talk about it at length, but if you understand that that's where I'm coming from when thinking about this stuff, it's also pretty easy to understand that I don't want to dump even $150-$180 into technology that I think of as more a work-around than anything else. Especially when I can call up Comcast and get the ability to record programs for the same monthly cost of a Tivo service without having to purchase my own box.
I certainly understand your hesitance in spending the $150-180 on a new box.

We'll have to see how things evolve, but Tivo has been moving more and more lately toward being exactly what you're talking about, a box for downloading and watching programs on demand. In addition to being able to rent and buy movies from Amazon, there are an increasing number of programs that are available for free download on Tivo boxes.

I currently subscribe to The Onion's weekly videos which are automatically downloaded for me whenever they become avaiable, as well as a few others I've tried out here and there. Most of these are pretty short, but there's no real reason that they couldn't be longer, and I think there may even be an option to subscribe to video podcasts. The newer Tivo boxes are moving even further in this direction, as the HD ones also allow you to watch Youtube videos, and other such things.

Now a lot of this might not pan out, especially if Tivo can't make more deals with other companies (I keep waiting for them to announce a deal with Netflix, which seems like a natural fit), but it's certainly not just a glorified VCR, and as they update the software, it will take on more and more options.

I also really truly hate every cable-company DVR I've ever used and would personally probably rather go without a DVR than use any of the ones I've had the displeasure of using. My mom has, for example, on several occasions throught that she was set up to record a show, only to find later that it didn't record for unknown reasons, some technical and some involving the interface not making it clear when you are actually set up to record a show. Wheras had she not had a buggy, hard to use DVR, she would have just watched the show when it was being broadcast and not missed it. But other people don't seem to mind their cable-provided DVR's so that may just be a personal thing, or maybe once I got used to it it'd be fine.

Of course if all goes well, soon Comcast will start offering DVR's with Tivo software on them to their whole customer base and that'd pretty much solve both problems right there.
If you get a DVR from your cable company you really need to make sure that interface works and that you get the interface youa re expecting. Cory had an interface that worked ok...not as good as TiVo, but pretty damn close. But then the cable company switched the barnd/interface it used and damn does it suck. It pisses him off constantly at how badly it works and all its little quirks.

Part of the problem with the evolution of ondemand programming is the amount of fiber that has been laid, specifically that which is laid from the hub to the house. The speed and volume needed for that stream is pretty big and many areas can't handle that stream to making programming really "on demand." But that will change as the cable systems upgrade. It is a tricky business right now because the financial outlay to upgrade a system is only worthwhile if companies know that their territories are protected because cable has proven time and again to be a natural monopoly and competition doesn't really thrive.

Mmmm, ok, enough from me. I am running on year old information. I haven't really kept up on the cable industry since my comm law class last year so what i typed could be completely outdated...but that is what I remember all the fun was about.

The DVR story is true. Damn do I hate the cable campany's interface.
We ride the same fence, my friend, and I actually like my TiVo still. I'm dissatisfied by this notion that I need one box for shows I already know I like (TiVo), another for ones that I'm catching up on (computer or Apple TV), the pricing for neither makes sense (e.g. I have to pay Comcast for their DRM cable card?), and still there's plenty of content that falls through the cracks when even a child nowadays can upload a video to YouTube. It's such a strange world in which content makers actively try *not* to have their content distributed in every possible medium
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